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Is QSX replacing QS processors or will they serve different purposes?

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I am very very confused about QSX. I've seen the little video and description of it along with most of the tech notes on the site and it seems like its main reason for existing is to allow for Ketra lights to be integrated with it which the existing QS processor apparently can't do. It also has cloud firmware upgrades. At first, this gives the impression that it can do everything QS can do plus the Ketra and cloud firmware stuff, but then when I read the fine print, it says that QSX can't work with RPM based systems so right off the bat, it's useless if upgrading old HWI systems, LiteTouch systems, along with every other RPM based QS systems. It has its own DIN rail type dimming module. So my questions for now is 1. Is QS being discontinued now or in the near future? 2. If you don't care about Ketra (and honestly I don't get why anybody should as it's proprietary and switches and your choice of lights work better ), is there any reason to get it over QS?

Yea its kind of stupid that it isnt backwards compatible. You would think in typical Lutron fashion they would at least offer to sell you a license to create a RPM link on the QSX processor to allow you to retrofit old jobs. I can see it already- just like HWI users that are hosed and need to redo most of their systems to QS when the old processor takes a crap, whats gonna happen when QS is discontinued and there is only QSX and they dont support RPMs and other QS devices? And if Ketra is their main selling point then im not too sure about that. We went thru the whole process of becoing a Ketra authorized design showroom (or whatever they call it), and honestly we havent sold a single system yet. Plus add to that the fixtures we installed in the showroom are now all of a sudden obsolete since they are using different RF technology now! Not a big deal with retrofit bulbs, but we have lot of the Ketra recessed lighting fixtures permanently installed in the ceiling. Oh and in our showroom we cant even go to QSX since our Ketra fixtures are the older ones and you cant just change out a part inside them to upgrade to the latest version! We already have one that has a problem and the whole fixture needs to be replaced! How does that go over with a homeowner that spent tens of thousands on a lighting system when you tell them you have to tear the ceiling apart??

For me it all depends on the price. If the P7 processor is 50% more because of Ketra it is a no-sale. Ketra is cool but I see it as something for the 1% of the 1%. I don't see it turning into another major product line like shades did. Unless of course, they can get the price way, way, way down. I did see where they said MI and Legacy links would not be supported at launch. That implies that they will be adding it, probably with a license fee as JOHNMAX noted. I would rather see them require a license fee to activate Ketra features. That would keep the base price of the processor down, keep compatibility, and I wouldn't have to pay for expensive features that I am never going to use (i.e. Ketra).

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To clarify some of the questions in this thread, the QSX processor is the next generation version of the QS processor. It features increased processing power and memory that will allow Lutron to continue to deliver game changing innovations over the next decade. It was designed in a way to allow for an easy transition from QS to QSX and offers most of the same features as QS. All QS and QS wireless devices that work with QS processors also work with QSX, except for the Dynamic Keypad. QS processor databases can be upgraded to work with QSX processors. The QSX processor also has all the capabilities of the Connect Bridge, so that Connect Bridges are not required when working with QSX. A few features won’t make the initial launch. These exceptions are called out in the Design Guide that is available on myResources. Thanks to the ability to firmware update the processors through the cloud, many of these features will simply appear for homeowners without you needing to go back to site. It is true that only QS and QS wireless links will be available at launch. We can not yet comment on whether RPM or other legacy links will be available for QSX. It is recommended to keep systems with RPM and legacy links as QS for the time being. The same applies to LiteTouch and HWI upgrades. While there will be limited new development for QS processors, Lutron does not have any plans at this point to obsolete QS. We understand the amount of legacy systems deployed into homes and make every effort to support those customers for as long as possible. As for the price of the QSX processor, it will be slightly more than a QS processor, but less than the cost of a QS processor and a Connect Bridge. Because RPM will not be available, we also strongly recommend moving all new designs to DIN based panels so that they can be easily upgraded to QSX. The QSX processor has a counterpart, the Clear Connect Gateway with Type X technology, that supports the addition of Ketra as a native load in a HomeWorks system, but this part is only required for systems using Ketra. Please let us know if you have any further questions and we would be happy to help

Originally Posted by Aaron D. he same applies to LiteTouch and HWI upgrades. While there will be limited new development for QS processors, Lutron does not have any plans at this point to obsolete QS. We understand the amount of legacy systems deployed into homes and make every effort to support those customers for as long as possible. As for the price of the QSX processor, it will be slightly more than a QS processor, but less than the cost of a QS processor and a Connect Bridge. Because RPM will not be available, we also strongly recommend moving all new designs to DIN based panels so that they can be easily upgraded to QSX. The QSX processor has a counterpart, the Clear Connect Gateway with Type X technology, that supports the addition of Ketra as a native load in a HomeWorks system, but this part is only required for systems using Ketra. Please let us know if you have any further questions and we would be happy to help Thank you for clearing some things up. The reason I was asking was actually specifically because I am bidding a LiteTouch upgrade now and I want to be able to tell customer honestly that if they're going to spend all the money they really don't want to be spending right now (on the account of Savant's betrayal), that at least their system will be supported going forward and not treated the way Lutron treated Illuminations sytems - that is to tell customers that their less than 10 year old system that had failed needed to be upgraded to QS. Truthfully, I DO like the new DIN rail module because they don't need an expensive Module Interface, but if that's the way going forward, why doesn't Lutron have DIN panels? Is that something that's coming up or are we supposed to find our own panels and just mount DIN rails on them without UL approval? Anyway, I really hope you guys bring back the road-shows for existing dealers. Everything is so focused on trying to get new Pros to sell Caseta (system that I love BTW) so it's just getting hard to get correct information. This forum itself was down for a couple of days.

I agree about Ketra. If anything it's Ketra that's a super specialty product so I hope there will be support for RPMs and there is no license fee because RPMs are a current product and are a very big part of centralized systems that can't just be converted without spending 10's of thousands of dollars. Speaking of Ketra, for the life of me I can't see any benefit to them. For years Lutron was preaching that smart controls were better than smart bulbs and now they're pushing these smart bulbs? Even millionaires are smart enough to not buy a specialty light that only one place sells which may or may not be supported in 15 years.

SparkyCoog,Lutron does over some Din Rail panels.Feed through: http://www.lutron.com/TechnicalDocum...691055_ENG.pdf And breakered: http://www.lutron.com/TechnicalDocum...06_ENG.pdfHope this helps!

Got a couple questions- Saw this- *Note: Telnet is not a supported method of integration to a HomeWorks QSX system starting at HomeWorks version 16.0. Is there a new published API then? also, this is a bit of a bummer- 3. App Control of HVAC Lutron HVAC systems will not be controllable through the app. This feature can be automatically deployed to systems through the cloud once development is complete.

Originally Posted by weekscolin Got a couple questions-Saw this-*Note: Telnet is not a supported method of integration to a HomeWorks QSX system starting at HomeWorks version 16.0.Is there a new published API then?also, this is a bit of a bummer-3. App Control of HVACLutron HVAC systems will not be controllable through the app. This feature can be automatically deployed to systems through the cloud once development is complete. There is a new API used to integrate with QSX systems, however the protocol is not published at this time. Lutron is working directly with key integration partners to develop new drivers based on this protocol. Regarding control of HVAC from the app, while we can’t commit to a specific timeline, our engineering team will be working on rapidly filling out features like this following the release. As mentioned in the app note, features like this can be remotely deployed, delighting your customers with it post-launch / ongoing basis

Originally Posted by Aaron D. ...While there will be limited new development for QS processors, Lutron does not have any plans at this point to obsolete QS. We understand the amount of legacy systems deployed into homes and make every effort to support those customers for as long as possible... History disagrees with you. I started installing HomeWorks Original. Within a year of the release of each new processor, the previous generation was obsoleted. Sometimes within a few months. Considering Lutron left out critical features like RPMs and Telnet, it might take a little longer to obsolete the P6 processor.

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A brand that really chimes with Pulse Cinemas’ desire to provide our installation partners with unique experiences to deliver to market is Lutron. These latest introductions underline the brand’s position as number one in the world for luxury, automated and highly aesthetic lighting systems.

Powering the next generation of the famous Lutron Electronics , HomeWorks platform, its premium automation platform, is the HomeWorks QSX processor , a unit that delivers a serious upgrade to this already impressive and popular system.

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Lutron Homeworks QSX

By Rob21 January 13, 2022 in General Control4 Discussion

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My C4 system currently uses Lutron QS for lighting, fans, and shades. The lighting is pretty much rock solid but unfortunately the fan and shade integration is terrible. The fans and shades are controlled with QS wireless. I believe that the homeworks QS shade integration is known to be problematic but I am wondering if anyone has any input on integration with homeworks QSX. If homeworks QSX offers solid integration for shades and fans then I would definitely consider upgrading. Any input is appreciated!

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what are the issues you are having with qs, i have done plenty of QS and QSX and have not had any issues, it could be your original programmer is not well versed integrating the systems together 

5 hours ago, tekki70 said: what are the issues you are having with qs, i have done plenty of QS and QSX and have not had any issues, it could be your original programmer is not well versed integrating the systems together 

To tell you the truth I would not be surprised if that were the case. I have two main issues. (1) My shades do not operate properly with the original Lutron qs shades driver. The shades operate fine if I control them through Lutron but when I attempt to control them in C4 it can be very finicky. Sometimes it takes multiple inputs for the shades to start moving, if the shade is closed and I drag the slider to 100% open it often stops at 99% instead of 100%, etc. (2) My fans do not track properly in C4. For example if I drag the fan slider to a medium speed it will set the fan to that speed but when I leave the page with the fan speed on whatever device I’m using and go back to it the fan slider reads that it is off. In order to actually turn the fan off I need to move the slider to one of the on positions and then move it back to off without leaving that page. I hope that all makes sense. I appreciate all  input/help. 

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these issues can most likely be fixed by updating your drivers and/or swapping out the shade drivers to a different one.  PM me if you need remote assistance.

22 hours ago, Rob21 said: To tell you the truth I would not be surprised if that were the case. I have two main issues. (1) My shades do not operate properly with the original Lutron qs shades driver. The shades operate fine if I control them through Lutron but when I attempt to control them in C4 it can be very finicky. Sometimes it takes multiple inputs for the shades to start moving, if the shade is closed and I drag the slider to 100% open it often stops at 99% instead of 100%, etc. (2) My fans do not track properly in C4. For example if I drag the fan slider to a medium speed it will set the fan to that speed but when I leave the page with the fan speed on whatever device I’m using and go back to it the fan slider reads that it is off. In order to actually turn the fan off I need to move the slider to one of the on positions and then move it back to off without leaving that page. I hope that all makes sense. I appreciate all  input/help. 

it definitely sounds like your programmer made some mistakes that can be fixed, your system should absolutly not be running like that. reach out to Chopedogg88 and let him run through your system. the problem may be a little deeper than c4 integration it could be issues on how its setup within lutron but it can be fixed., again reach out to chopedogg88 as he can help you as well

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Hi Guys, hope you can give me some help.  We are facing some issues here integrating Lutron QSX with Control4. Every time we change a Pico button programming, all the light zones inside this programming stops responding on Control4. I can only make them responsive again if I delete all of them on Control4, go to the processor driver and ask to add zones again, this helps making the lights responsive again, but I can't do any programming on C4 once the light zones change every time. Have anyone a clue on how to solve it?

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I am currently in the build phase of my house. I wanted a light control system integrated into the house. I am looking to understand the difference between Ra 2 and Homeworks. To understand what I am looking to integrate I listed needs below... - Ability to have panel near garage/bedroom that can kill all lights in house. (purpose is to hit button before bed or exiting house to kill the lights and keep my bills respectable.) - Motion control - as a person walks into room it will automatically light up. - APP based control. Able to dial into it via iphone/andoid and control lights while AT home and AWAY. - MUST integrate into HVAC system. Would be great if it could integrate with the NEST Thermostat. Want ability to monitor while at work.(via app) - Must be able to dim LED lights/dimmers in each room. Thoughts on my needs and what it is I should be further investigating? Is lutron the right product for me? If So based on needs can someone explain the difference between RadioRA 2 and Homeworks and how they would differ for me? I have read everything on Lutron's site but I did not see a comparative break down of what is difference. I beleive RadioRa is all radio/wireless and Homeworks is Wired/Wireless. Is there other differences? Cost difference? Is one more beneficial than the other? This is not my end all house - its a 5 yr city living house, so I want the benefits of the above "needs" list, but I am NOT going to scale this up and add a Savant/Crestron Home Automation system on top of this. That will be saved for the next build. Thanks in advance!  

The main difference between Ra 2 and Homeworks QS would be scalability and programming flexibility. Ra 2 is system designed around being able to retrofit into a home with regular wiring, so all of the devices are designed to fit into wall boxes, and work in various switching configurations. The devices communicate wireless with each other and rf repeaters. Of course one can install the Ra 2 dimmers in a remote location, and opt for keypad control, but the system design is never truly 'centralized'. From a programming standpoint with Ra 2 you have: Scences - a button press bringing system devices to a preset state Toggles - a button press toggling a load or loads between 2 states (On & Off usually) 1 time clock with the ability to create modes, and events which can be tied to different modes (for example, random lighting turning on and off would be applied to the 'Away' time clock mode, and not the 'Normal'. A programmed Ra 2 system feels pretty vanilla, but it excels at being vanilla. As soon as you start trying to make it more than it is things get a little crazy. Where Homeworks really shines is it's ability to be totally centralized from a design point of view. Dimming panels and processor enclosures can be installed in mechanical areas where all system wiring would be routed too. If you need to add an interface, or power supply all the wiring is in one location. Homeworks QS can also scale up to thousands of devices or zones, where Radio Ra 2 caps at 200 (with a few gotchas thrown in there for good fun). Programming with QS gives you a lot of flexibility with conditional logic (however a little limited at this time) and the ability to dial in the way keypad button presses work and how the end user will use the system. As far as your specific requests, there is not anything that Ra 2 will not be able to achieve. For HVAC I would recommend the Lutron Honeywell stat (with a remote sensor if you want it out of sight). Having the stat integrated instead of stand alone will be much more functional for you, and many stats can be used for multiple zones, which displays very nice on the app. I find sensors with Ra 2 kind of suck, because without conditional logic programming they never really seem to do what you want them to do. For example with Homeworks you can have the sensor respond differently based on time of day, or any other factor you find important whereas with Ra 2 that light comes on to the preset value every time. As far as remote access, Lutron recommends VPN for the apps, so you're going to want to have your installer review the app notes on that topic. Port forwarding does work, however it is not supported by Lutron. Keep in mind with either system that dimming LED's can be challenging. It is getting easier because the quality of dimming drivers is always increasing, however they can still be quirky. I would recommend testing all your fixtures/lamps before hand if possible. There is a Lutron tool for selecting LED fixtures/lamps on their website but it's getting quite dated as they do not seem to update it much (ever). As far as price goes, Homeworks does cost quite a lot more, maybe 50-60% more than Ra 2. One can expect to pay about $300-400 per zone for an installed Ra 2 system (depending on a ton of factors), and Homeworks about $550-650 per zone. Of course prices will vary from place to place and how the system is designed.  

sorry to resurrect a zombie thread but this is the one google turned up. For a vs comparison see this http://www.lutron.com/TechnicalDocumentLibrary/3682773_RA2_HWQS_comparison.pdf  

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Lutron HomeWorks QS, HomeWorks QSX, RadioRA 2, RadioRA 3, and RA2 Select systems can be integrated into a Crestron Home system to enable control of Lutron lights, shades, and fans. The Lutron devices can be controlled from a user interface device such as a Crestron touch screen, TSR-310 handheld remote, iOS® device, and Android™ device.

Lutron RadioRA3, Homeworks QSX, and RA2 Select processors and their configurations cannot migrate to a different Crestron Home processor. During the pairing process, a unique certificate is created that allows communications between the two processors. If the system is migrated, the Lutron system must be paired and reconfigured.

• It is recommended that the names of the Lutron areas match the names of the rooms in the Crestron Home system. This will allow the Crestron Home system to automatically import the matching areas. Non-matching areas will need to be added individually on the Pair Devices screen.
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• After the Rescan button is pressed and matching room names are discovered.

(For RA2 Select Systems Only) The Auto-Add Lutron Scenes dialog is displayed and lists the Lutron Scenes that can be imported. The Lutron Scenes are placed in the Whole House room in Light Scenes and Shade Scenes configuration pages. To add the Lutron Scenes to the Crestron Home system, tap Yes . Tap No to skip the Lutron Scene import process.

If No is selected, the Lutron Scenes are not added to the Crestron Home system. To add the Lutron scenes, refer to Rescan the Lutron System .

• A Lutron scene cannot be imported if the scene name already exists in the Crestron Home system or matches a Crestron Home reserved scene name (All On, All Off, All Open, All Closed). The scene name is displayed in red text if a scene name conflict exists.
• Lutron scenes that control both lights and shades are imported as separate light and shade scenes but retain control of all devices in the scene. For example, the lights and shades are adjusted to their scene levels if the Lutron shade scene or the Lutron light scene is recalled.
• To scan the Lutron system for new Lutron Scenes, tap Rescan . For details, refer to Rescan the Lutron System .

• Add Lutron Areas to Rooms

This procedure is required for Lutron areas that must be manually added to the Crestron Home system.

NOTE: Only one Lutron area can be added to each room in the Crestron Home system.

To add a Lutron area to a room:

• Select the room where the Lutron area is installed from the Select a room menu.

Select the Lutron area from the Lutron Area menu and then tap the plus button ( + ) to add the Lutron area to the selected room.

The Lutron Area is added to the room and displayed as a Lutron Area folder in the room. Lutron loads (lights, shades, and fans) are also added to the room.

Rename Lutron buttons with user-friendly names. The name of the button is displayed in the Crestron Home user interface.

NOTE: Lutron buttons are placed in the Light Scenes and Shade Scenes screens when the Lutron system is imported. The buttons function as scenes in the Crestron Home system.

Tap the Configure Lighting Scenes button or Configure Shade Scenes button on the Setup Scenes screen to display the Light Scenes or Shade Scenes screen.

• Select a room from the List of Rooms menu.

• Tap the Lutron button from the List of Scenes menu and then enter a new name for the button. The name assigned to the scene will be displayed in the Crestron Home user interface.
• Assign All On, All Off, All Open, and All Close Scenes

Assign room-level All On and All Off light scenes and All Open and All Close shade scenes to Lutron buttons. When the All On and All Off light scene and All Open and All Close shade scenes are configured, the On/Off or Open/Close functionality of the tile in the Crestron Home User Interface is enabled.

• The Lutron keypad must be able to provide LED feedback to assign an All On, All Off, All Open, or All Close scene.
• To make sure that the Crestron Home user interface provides accurate feedback, set the LED Logic to Scene in the Lutron programming software.
• Crestron® lighting components create All On and All Off scenes and shading components create All Open and All Close scenes when they added to a room. Lutron scenes cannot be assigned as the All On, All Off, All Open, or All Close scene if the scenes already exists in the room. To remove the All On and All Off light scenes or All Open and All Close shade scenes, the room must be removed and then re-added to the system. For details, refer to Rooms .

To assign the All On, All Off, All Open, and All Close scenes:

Select All On , All Off , All Close , or All Open from the Select Scene Type menu and then tap the Save button. The scene name is changed to All On, All Off, All Close, or All Open depending on the selection made.

NOTE: Select Standard from the Select Scene Type menu to reset the scene to normal operating mode. The scene name reverts to its last known name.

Rename Lutron Scenes and Enable Visibility

To view the scenes in the Crestron Home user interface, the scenes must be made visible in the desired room. The name of the scene is displayed in the Crestron Home user interface and must be provided a user-friendly name.

• Lutron scenes are stored in the Whole House room in the Light Scenes and Shade Scenes configuration screens.

Rename Lutron Scenes

To rename the scene, tap the name of the scene in the List of Scenes menu and then enter a new name for the scene. The name assigned to the scene will be displayed in the Crestron Home user interface.

Configure Scene Visibility

Lutron scenes are hidden when they are imported into the Crestron Home system. To use the Lutron scene in the Crestron Home user interface, the scene must be enabled.

To enable the Lutron scene:

• Tap the Lutron scene and then tap the eye icon. The Show Scene In dialog box is displayed.

Select the room(s) that should display the Lutron scene.

Tap the Save button to accept the changes.

• Rescan the Lutron System

Rescan the Lutron system to import changes that were made to the Lutron system or to import individual Lutron lights, shades, and fans into the system.

NOTES: When the Lutron system is rescanned, the Lutron system will be re-downloaded. Consider the following when rescanning the Lutron system.

• Devices that have been added to the Lutron system will become available to the Crestron Home system.
• Changes to Lutron scene names and keypad names will not be overwritten.
• If a Lutron device was added to the Lutron system, the device can be added to the Crestron Home system.
• If a Lutron area was deleted from the Lutron system, the device and its programming is deleted from the Crestron Home system.
• If a device in a Lutron system is moved to different Lutron area, the existing device is deleted from the Crestron Home system and is added to the Crestron Home system as a new device.

Tap Rescan in the Lutron Area menu. The Crestron Home system scans the Lutron system for changes.

• Best Practices for Lutron Systems

Keep the following in mind when integrating Lutron systems into your Crestron Home system.

• To discover the Lutron system, the Crestron Home processor and Lutron processor must be on the same network and use the same network switch.

Use Lutron Designer Software to incorporate the desired functions in the Lutron system and then import those items into Crestron Home either as scenes or via button emulation. For example, use Lutron Designer Software to perform the following tasks:

• Create Lutron button programming to control multiple Lutron lights, shades, or fans.
• Create raise or lower events for multiple Lutron lights, shades, or fans.
• To import Lutron loads and enable individual load control, the Lutron system must be rescanned. Discovered loads are added to the Crestron Home room containing the Lutron Area.

Individual Lutron lights, shades, and fans can be added to a Crestron Home scene or controlled using standard keypad programming. When creating scenes in the Crestron Home app, consider the following:

NOTE: Individual load control is available on HomeWorks QS, HomeWorks QSX, and Radio RA2 systems.

• The Crestron Home system executes the scene by commanding each Lutron load to go to the specified level, one load at a time.
• Lutron loads can be directly selected during keypad programming. Lutron loads can be selected for control when Lighting Load, Shade Load, Lighting Raise, Lighting Lower, Shade Raise, Shade Lower, and Ceiling Fan are selected from the Mode drop-down menu.
• Although not directly selectable, Lutron loads can be selected for control through scene, quick actions (including sequences), room, and master selections when programming keypads. Lutron loads will be controlled when Scene, Quick Actions, Lighting Room, Shade Room, Master Raise, Master Lower are selected from the Mode drop-down menu. For details, refer to Button Actions .
• Lutron fans can be turned on when Lighting Load is selected from the Mode drop-down menu. Set the On Speed for the fan in the fan settings screen. For details, refer to Lutron Fan Settings .

Wired light load performance when controlling Lutron loads via Crestron Home keypad programming and Scenes:

• Loads are controlled in the order that the cabinet is wired.
• There is a 0.1 second delay between each load that is controlled.
• Twenty loads in a cabinet can be controlled in approximately 1 to 2 seconds.
• Loads in multiple cabinets are controlled one cabinet at a time. For example, if there are two cabinets installed, loads in Cabinet A are controlled and then loads in Cabinet B are controlled.

Wireless light load performance when controlling Lutron loads via Crestron Home keypad programming and Scenes:

• There is a small delay (about 0.8 seconds) between each light load that is controlled.
• Controlling five wireless lights will take about 4.5 seconds.
• Controlling 27 wireless lights will take about 17 seconds.

Wired and wireless shade load performance when controlling Lutron loads via Crestron Home keypad programming and Scenes:

• There is a small delay between each shade load that is controlled.
• When controlling 20 shades, there will be a 1- to 3-second lag between when the first shade starts moving and the last shade starts moving.
• To emulate a Lutron button and a function within Crestron Home (for example, a Crestron Home scene), create a sequence that recalls the Lutron button and the Crestron Home function. For details, refer to Sequence .

Lutron loads can be included in a Quick Action when Scene or Sequence is selected from the Mode drop-down menu.

• To control the Lutron load when Scene is selected from the drop-down menu, create a scene that includes the Lutron load and then select the scene when configuring the Quick Action. For details, refer to Create Scenes and Scene .
• To control a Lutron load when Sequence is selected from the drop-down menu, add the Lutron load to the sequence and then configure it. For details, refer to Sequence .
• Lutron shades will be excluded from Crestron Home shade groups. Lutron shade groups should be setup in the Lutron Designer software. Crestron Home will create shade loads for Lutron shade groups, and ungrouped shades.

Diagnostic and logging information is available for the Lutron loads. For details, refer to Diagnostics .

• The Devices tab in the Diagnostics menu will include all Lutron loads in the same manner as Crestron loads.
• The Lutron system does not report the online status of individual Lutron loads. The online and offline indicators reflect the state of the Lutron gateway, not the individual Lutron loads.

Unlike Crestron loads, the feedback received from Lutron loads will behave as follows:

• When a scene is recalled, Crestron Home receives and reports the feedback immediately. Keypads will not flash their LEDs or display a bargraph indicating that they loads are changing.
• For ramping operations (raise or lower buttons), the feedback will not update until the raise or lower operations is complete.

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